August 17, 2008
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Todd Bentley & the Revival in Lakeland
I’m going to break my habit of not posting very often… well, I do have something to say this time, that I feel compelled to write (I woke up and couldn’t go back to sleep because this was on my mind). And no matter how you think or feel about Todd Bentley and Revivals, don’t stop reading here, because what I’m about to say applies really, to “everybody”.
Todd Bentley has a ministry that is pentecostal and full of “signs and wonders” in nature. Some would say he’s just another nut like (you fill in the name here). Others would say God works through him in a strong, tangible way and that his ministry changes lives for the better, and that miracles happen in his meetings. I’m not going to pass judgment on his ministry right now, because a) I don’t know enough to make a “decision” on it yet, and b) that’s not my purpose for writing this.
A couple of months ago in Lakeland Florida, Todd Bentley preached for several days. Many who were there (and who heard from people that were there) witnessed and experienced things that inspired it to be called a “revival”. I wasn’t there. I read things about the meetings and saw a few minutes of it on God tv. Again, I’m not going to pass judgment on it.
I had dinner last night with a dear female friend, and she told me that it was just announced from Todd’s ministry, that he and his wife have separated, and that Todd “had an inappropriate emotional attachment to a female member of his staff”.
I’m sure his critics are having a field day with this. But I’m writing because I feel compelled to say a few things about condemnation.
We have all read about evangelists, ministers, etc., being caught being bad examples, doing immoral things, and even doing outright criminal acts. Sometimes things are so bad that it destroys their ministry (Jim and Tammy Faye Baker for one) and undoes any good they may have done (whether on purpose or accidentally). It also offends people to the point where they want no part of Christianity at all (which to me is the worst effect).
I say to all of us: instead of condemning ministers like this, we should be praying for them. We should be saying, “Lord, please help this person repent before you, and change his life so you may use him again for your purpose and glory and furthering the work of the Kingdom. Please turn evil for good, let no weapon formed against Your work prosper; turn the enemies of your work away and please don’t let any good that’s been done come undone.”
Even if you don’t like Todd Bentley or his ministry, pray for him, that this scandal doesn’t do what I just said I think is the “worst” effect, that of turning people off from God completely.
Scriptures come to mind like the one telling us not to try and take the mote out of someone’s eye when we have a whole beam in ours. Or the one that says, “let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall”. Or the famous saying not in scripture, “there but for the grace of God go I.”
Or the phrase, “love delights not in iniquity “(I Cor 13 I think). I’m sure there are lots more scriptures that fit this situation, all telling us to not judge but pray for someone overcome by sin.And this applies not just to famous people or people in ministry, but people in our own churches that we hear gossip about. Scripture calls Christians the “weak of the world”… and the devil spends way more time trying to mess Christians up than he does non-Christians…
Instead of writing Todd off as being somehow not credible any more or this being “proof” that his ministry was fake in the first place, pray for him. Pray for any place God is or may be working, whether you think He is or not. Pray for the furtherance of the gospel and for the Lord to stay the hands of the enemies of that gospel. And pray for Todd personally, this has got to be hard…sure he brought it on himself, but isn’t it better that he be “corrected” in this and not allowed to just go his merry way down to destruction beyond the point of no return?
Paul mentioned that while he was in prison people were bolder about preaching Christ, and even said some were doing it out of bad motives — but that it was “ok” because even that would further the gospel, which is the bottom line anyway. So I’m guessing that even “bad” ministries (or ministries that you think are weird) might be doing some good for some people. That’s why I say pray for any place God might be working, whether you think He is working in that ministry or not. And pray for your brothers and sisters in your congregations, too, when you hear they’ve “been naughty”.
I’ll get off the soapbox now.
Love to all,
Gerrie
Comments (21)
I totally agree with you here. Thanks for sharing!
Love ya! ~ Chris
Hope you are having a good weekend…good to hear from you again!
Mike
@xThexGodfatherx -
Thanks, it’s good to be home, it was wonderful to be with my brother, but now I’m ready to get ready for the school year:)
You have a tender heart, Gerrie. I think you’re right. Our reaction to sin should be heartbreak, not finger-pointing. This has been something we’ve been wrestling with in our church, as our son was recently persecuted by church teen boys on a missions trip for not talking foul and crude about girls. My initial reaction was burning anger; over time, it’s settled into a deep sadness. We all have a streak of self-righteousness that brings us to think, “I would NEVER do that!” and condemn those who sin around us while constantly excusing and rationalizing our own errant behavior.
The challenge is to find a way to still uphold standards of behavior while forgiving those who don’t adhere to them. That’s difficult. Those teenage boys should be held accountable for behaving poorly even while we understand how easy we all fall short of expectations.
Thanks for sharing from your heart.
Well said!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with you 110% Thanks for speaking life into a difficult dicey situation….blessings…Christy
yes, I will add him to my prayers. And maybe he can come BACK with renewed understanding of the importance of marriage, and the trials there. And what we can do….before the problems.
@Bumblypick -
Thank you, that’s exactly what I was trying to do, speak life and make people think twice.
@ANT_L -
yes maybe he can learn some special lessons to really help people who have similar temptations…
Yes, yes!! Let’s keep praying for each other, especially leaders. This summer our pastor has taken us on a series looking at David, “A Heart after God”. It is very evident David sinned big time! BUT… he was repentant and God was merciful and scripture notes David’s tender heart toward God. YET he, his new wife Bathsheba, their son and the people of his kingdom suffered the consequences. David remained King, but his favor with people was never quite the same. They lost their son from this extramarital affair, but God blessed their union by giving them Solomon … all part of Jesus’ lineage. All says to me that we want to really pray that people (especially leaders with so much at stake) who are sinning would repent, know they (and others) will suffer the consequences but also know God will give them the grace to walk it out to healing and restoration, and know that God is merciful. He is the GOD of SECOND CHANCES! He can turn what Satan intended for evil into good… as we surrender it to Him.
My personal example of God’s provision came as a leader of a crisis line ministry in the early 90s. I found/learned several things.
** I knew that as a leader I was personally a sitting duck, vulnerable in relationships. I prayed for God’s protection as I chose to be on my guard and openly alerted my husband so we could pray together. God answered our prayers and kept me pure, without inappropriate emotional attachments within the ministry. He gave me grace to deal with a few difficult people that were called to this intensely emotional/spiritual ministry.
** You cannot please everyone in your ministry.
** I knew I really needed and valued people’s prayers. However, with these difficult people in the ministry my personal prayer became …
“Please, lift my arms in the battle; don’t chop me off at the knees!!”
** In God’s perfect timing, He released me from this ministry though that was very painful for me. I knew God could/would turn this into good in my life and for His Kingdom… if and as I continued to surrender it all to Him. I chose for Him to make me better, rather than I become bitter.
** Today one of the ladies who came to the Helpline training and I are “border buddies” (term from ‘The Dream Giver’) and are partners in ministry. Though we now live many miles apart, we have sister, online ministries that are for people who are hurting and those who would help. http://www.rondasrestingplace.net and http://www.walkalongside.org
Hey Gerrie… Thanks for the comments. We have been so busy the past week or two..but now can relax for a day or so. Ruth starts back on Thursday, the kids come the following Tuesday. Be blessed!
Phil
I think you are right…I’ve always said dreams are the way we relieve stress. God bless.
I agree with you, Gerrie. We have a case here in our community where a beloved young minister has been charged with rape in connection with allegedly having (consensual) sex with his 17 year old adopted daughter. It has caused a furor,as you can imagine….I feel like you do, that we need to pray for him, his wife,the young girl, the people in his church….that somehow good can come of this, and that the damage to the Kingdom will be healed and lives restored.
Good to hear from you, my friend….God bless you!
Gerrie I love your heart! Yes, I agree with you all around. Far too many christians put salt to the wounds of another, or throw them aside after they trip up. In anycase, Christians will kill their own instead of embracing them, loving them, encouraging them to repent and go forward. There are many that messed up in the BIBLE Thank GOD for they repented and got back on track!
May we have a tender heart for wounded members of the Body of Christ. A loving heart-forgiving heart.
Hey…
@jimmish -
write me please in email or message here? My mac Firefox crashes when I go to your blog, and it didn’t used to…
Hey Gerrie..
Just trying to catch up with all who commented. Been a really busy weekend. Would appreciate your prayers. Caught some kind of stomach bug.. not feeling well at all. Need sleep and de-stressing
Blessings,
Phil
Good Morning!! How are you today? Saw you on my footprints this morning when I got back from the doctor and it made me wonder….are you back in school or are you now working? Hope you are having a good day…God bless!! ~~janet
God can use any vessel, broken or not for His purpose, that being said, I think when someone as a pastor does sin, there needs to be some consequence – and not just because of the sin but because of them. They need to get their lives in order. Our pastor often uses the example of electricity. If you have a circuit, then light can happen. If you send too much power through a wire you can burn out the circuit – the power may be passed but the wire becomes useless. When we have unconfessed sin in our lives, when we are living outside of God’s best for us, that doesn’t mean that God can’t use us, but it does mean that there is a chance that the impurities on our “wires” is such that there can be burnout. I think we do have to judge, but not to condemnation. And we also have to restore as a person pulls their lives together – God is about restoration.
Heather
I thank ya for your comment
Im greatful to God for My wife and our wonderful relationship. It’s nice when others can see it too
Stopping by to wish you a happy Tuesday. God bless
Wow, Gerrie ~ just read what Gail said above, and those are my words to you, too. I love you. Thanks for speaking the truth in love!